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xxTeutonicKnightxx - 13.4.2012 2:49:16
There is a lot of misconceptions about the "Dark ages" & or "Medieval age". Example: Many historians in the past even today say that European long swords were 20 to 40 lbs, or that a Knight could not get up when fallen down. I even herd that Europeans did not have martial arts. These are coming from so called "historians" and so called "hisotry books". All of that was just myths that have been proven wrong. Also the medieval age is the most misunderstood part of History in the Western world.

xxTeutonicKnightxx - 13.4.2012 2:34:34
I apologies from the last post, it is a bit messy (a bit in a herry) I think we are getting on the wrong foot here. I never said that Europe was more advanced then China at the dates that I am talking about. I am trying to say that the Western civilization was not as backwards as you say or think it was. What do you think people will say about our own time? That the 20ths Century was great? And the 21 centory is just now starting. No time or age was heaven or perfect.

xxTeutonicKnightxx - 13.4.2012 2:29:04
And those poor peasants in China had it way better? The Knight & his blast Furnace", "Arms & armor of the Medieval Knight", "Knightly arts of Combat" Are from kids book. Infact "The Knight & his blast Furnace" was printed for libraries, museums, Schools and such. That book now cost about $200.oo to over $300.oo to buy. It talks about technological inventions in Europe not just armor (but most of it is arms & armor) I never said that Europe was more

xxTeutonicKnightxx - 13.4.2012 2:29:02
Most people I know in ARMA do it that way. In the Early Middle Ages can be called the dark ages: depopulation, deurbanization, and barbarian invasions, all of this had begun in Late Antiquity. By the 1,000 AD that is when the population of Europe increased as well as new technological and agricultural innovations. Sorry but not all of Europe at the 1100s AD & 1200s AD was not a sh** hole as you say it was...

shalom1948hellyeah - 12.4.2012 19:27:21
lol you dont even know the terms. they are used for different things. MIDDLE AGES is merely a division of Western culture into Classical (greek roman), Middle and Modern Dark Ages is a historiographical term. Much like Modern Age and Nuclear Age are not mutually exclusive it's not like historians split it up into Classical, Dark then Medieval ages lol. you dont even know the divisions

shalom1948hellyeah - 12.4.2012 19:16:23
You have to read anthropological books, not books about armor lolz When you get a bit older pick up Little Ice Age by Brian A Fagan to read how the harsh Euro conditions affected everything from agriculture to RELIGION. and China: A New History by John Fairbank I'm pro-West. but you're just a clueless kid. parts of it like Ireland were literally in the stone age even in france lords couldn't move grain 30 miles from one area to another during famines. you really have no clue at all

shalom1948hellyeah - 12.4.2012 19:10:01
lol ok you're a kid. your entire impression of the Dark Ages is through kids books about "knights" and armor I'm not trolling you or fighting with you. You simply dont know anything about Medieval Europe. There is no question that Europe was incredibly poor and backward. Especially compared to China which was the most advanced and rich country in the world during this period LITERALLY Western standard of living didn't approach China until the modern age in many aspects.

shalom1948hellyeah - 12.4.2012 19:06:39
it's not a matter of surviving. Chinese culture was impacted greatly by foreign invasions, although as you say eventually foreigners became absorbed into the population. Keep in mind that your ancestors didn't even speak "Chinese." Mandarin didn't even exist 1000 years ago. It was developed as a Lingua Franca during the occupation of the JURCHEN and MONGOLS around Beijing so that people from different parts of the empire could communicate

hanchiman - 10.4.2012 2:05:48
Europe created the modern world and changed the political science.

xxTeutonicKnightxx - 9.4.2012 23:16:04
Ok a good book that I think you should read is "The Knight & his blast Furnace", "Arms & armor of the Medieval Knight", "Knightly arts of Combat" and a few others.

xxTeutonicKnightxx - 9.4.2012 23:10:23
I am a tard? Europe during the Dark Ages was living literally in the stone age? Hmmm I am tard? I do not think the Dark ages were at 10,000 BC. Do you know when the "Dark ages" were? It was rite after the fall of the Western Roman Empire. It started at 476 AD but the Romans were still around up still around the 600s AD the Dark ages were about 475AD-900AD. The Dark ages and medieval Ages are NOT the same. By 1100AD Europe had been out of the Dark ages...

xxTeutonicKnightxx - 9.4.2012 23:08:33
The same can be said about Europe. But I agree, China and Europe made this world!

hanchiman - 8.4.2012 18:48:15
But at the end it looks like the Chinese culture survives throughout the foreign dynasties. The foreigners always ended up being Sinocized before being driven out or intermarried with the Han Chinese. We still speak and write Chinese and the culture like Lunar New Year still celebrated all around in China and oversea Chinese in China Towns.

shalom1948hellyeah - 8.4.2012 18:26:52
Qing lasted 270 years and Liao 210 years. Most native dynasties lasted 50-100 years. Only Ming and Tang (Golden Ages) is comparable to foreign rule China has been dominated by foreigners for much of its history. Plus the fact that China been continually & slowly expanding throughout its history, starting from North China Plain then South then North and now finally into Tibetan, Mongolian, Korean and other lands they now claim as Chinese

shalom1948hellyeah - 8.4.2012 18:21:12
why are you even arguing about something this basic? you sound like a tard. try picking up a book. Western Europe was a shithole. it's much much worse than you think. much of Europe during the Dark Ages was living literally in the stone age. in contrast by Tang, China had 100 million population and a food surplus Western Europe eventually went on to become the greatest civilization in history but until later times it was backwards, largely worthless and completely barbaric

xxTeutonicKnightxx - 7.4.2012 23:37:05
Pick up a book? WOW! LOL What do you think I did to say that? You are thinking of old out to date info about Eruope at this time. What books have you been reading? People were starving everywhere? That is in any age as well in Chania. LOL You think those poor peasants in China had it any better then in Europe? Anyways, I am in A.R.M.A. as well in minering in this stuff; they debunk a lot of this stuff. Are you thinking of the years of 500-900 AD?

hanchiman - 6.4.2012 23:10:42
Dominated yes, but somehow not always long enough if reading the timeline, usually the domination would last for less than 100 years, however the only one who dominated longest was the Manchus (like 200 years until Republic era of 1911).

shalom1948hellyeah - 6.4.2012 20:43:11
the documentary means Western culture, not Classical culture. Western culture was influenced by Rome and Greece but was 1)Christian 2)Western European and not Mediterranean.

shalom1948hellyeah - 6.4.2012 20:38:32
are you stupid? the Dark Ages were much much much worse than you think. people were starving everywhere you sound like a retard. Western Europe in the 12th century was a complete shithole. even Bzyantine was in deep decline and about to be wiped out by the A-rabs. it wasn't until the 17th century at the end of the Renaissance that the standard of living in Western Europe was even comparable to China. pick up a book.

shalom1948hellyeah - 6.4.2012 20:35:29
simply put it's because for approximately half of its history China has been ruled by foreigners. the Manchu, Jurchen, Mongols, Khitan etc. and later dominated the West and Japan. unlike most countries, China doesn't mind having been invaded and dominated, because it has been for so much of its history also as a part politics starting in the 90s Chinese have started to steal the cultures of other countries, they claim to "own" mongol history since they claim it overlaps Chinese history

hanchiman - 26.3.2012 23:40:06
As an oversea Chinese living in Europe and thus lack of detailed Chinese history throughout my school years (thanks that Wikipedia exist even though it could sometimes be biased and inaccurate), something I never understood is that Kublai Khan is somehow "respected" in Chinese history, even though he was a "foreigner". What is it that made him popular even among the Chinese history?

oneofssn - 8.2.2012 6:17:41
@j0n52 it might be captured during the two attempt invation to Japan. The weather saved Japan in both. This video is interesting. Im Chinese, the music is Chinese music, but apparently the document was produced by Japanese. With English title. good document.

xxTeutonicKnightxx - 6.2.2012 20:04:43
Well even then the Dark Ages were not so dark. It is very misleading to think Western Europe was not a foce at this time.

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j0n52 - 31.12.2011 18:32:09
You are well on the way. Bon voyage!